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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:37 pm    Post subject: Sobering viewing Reply with quote

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with relegation form shown since October.

http://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/formGuide/northprem?count=8

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This summer we need to change the playing personnel considerably
I think the statement reads a little better with the word playing removed.

This summer we need to change the personnel considerably

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the decline cannot persist into a new season.
I am very concerned that things may be a whole lot worse this time next year. Let’s hope for inspiring news during the next 4 months.

This table does not make for pleasant viewing either. You need to look down the bottom. http://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league/northprem?sort=3

I eagerly await others opinions and points of view and hope to be proved totally wrong.

And as for the Whitby supporter’s little dig I would ask that you mind your own business and perhaps go out and celebrate a most remarkable escape from relegation. I really thought both Whitby and Buxton were doomed.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Island me and my friends agree with you. Who can we say we have as an exciting attacking player this season know one!!!
Why has Holmsey played all season you could tell he was so far out of his depth in the first month, says alot when a retired player comes on for us links up straight away then davies puts a cracking ball through to him for a chance on goal in 10 mins, because of a basic strikers movement. Embarressing if you ask me, why did it never get changed, you can see the effect on the squad its had, sometimes look beaten before they go out.
Yates has become a liabilty must be why Marks trying him in midfield which by the way he isnt. not clever enough, right back for me out of the way wants to be the pretty player centre of attention on the ball when isnt smart enough or reliable enough, especially this year to play midfield or centre half.
To NAIVE & TO YOUNG is the problem, weve won two games away from home all season, whats that tell you? to many stupid school boy goals conceded. not enough mature players in the squad to see a game out, go away and actually have the knowlege to go out and win a game from home. To many young lads with an engine no substance.
Sorry this is a rant but is it not so obvious? im frustrated because you can see the potential in the squad. kennedy, luckic, joynes, davies, king, harcourt, featherstone. lawrence. thats a solid back bone to work with and that would walk into any other club in this league and strengthen it.
Next year if these players decide to stay which i hope they do we DESPERATELY need another mature centre half thats talks, a * consistant* winger and a striker. I think we would be in the play-off position without a shadow.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yates is a liability? He had a bad minute against Whitby which is very much in peoples thoughts as it was recent. Other than that he does not stand out as a liability.

Not sure where potential and Joynes sit in the same sentence.

We don't need a striker we need two.

Discipline needs to be improved on the pitch.

Islanders link to the away record is detailed above. For balance check out goals conceded (9th) home form (9) and yes goals scored (20th). In conclusion srtikers required.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pea Inspector wrote:
Yates is a liability? He had a bad minute against Whitby which is very much in peoples thoughts as it was recent. Other than that he does not stand out as a liability.

Not sure where potential and Joynes sit in the same sentence.

We don't need a striker we need two.

Discipline needs to be improved on the pitch.

Islanders link to the away record is detailed above. For balance check out goals conceded (9th) home form (9) and yes goals scored (20th). In conclusion srtikers required.


Thanks for your considered thoughts again Inspector Pea

By the way you wanted to go and see Belper Town in the play-offs but I can't seem to see them listed in the fixtures! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some good points from everyone but for me we have too many players who have had there best years. a good clear out is a must if we going to have a good season so i would keep kennedy kink gaughan lukic alger yates harcourt riley wilkin.i know is short but we have to many faces who were here under gripper and brown
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we need a good clear out to and a bit of fresh blood in the side but I’m sure the management are aware of that and will have already got targets in mind for this summer.

I’m not sure how anybody can say Yates is liability when in my opinion he’s being up there for player of the season alongside Kennedy.

I agree with LJ that I think Wilkin staying is a must as I think he could be a massive player for us next season as long as he gets a good pre season under his belt.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yates a Liability are you having a laugh? he Gives 100% every game he plays for Matlock where ever he is asked to play. Every footballer will make the odd mistake what ever the level that they play at.look at Barcelona when they played against chelsea last week could not score or defend does that make them a Liability?.
We might not have finished where we wanted to in the league but we started out without Ross and were one of the Bookmakers favourites for relegation.Would have been nice to bring in a few more players but we have to work with in our budget,look at the top Six apart from chester have they overspent ?only Two can go up.
Well done to Matlock Town FC from Nigel and Karl.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

little john wrote:
some good points from everyone but for me we have too many players who have had there best years. a good clear out is a must if we going to have a good season so i would keep kennedy kink gaughan lukic alger yates harcourt riley wilkin.i know is short but we have to many faces who were here under gripper and brown


Slight change's for my keep's listing which doesn't include Algar and Riley.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rava wrote:
little john wrote:
some good points from everyone but for me we have too many players who have had there best years. a good clear out is a must if we going to have a good season so i would keep kennedy kink gaughan lukic alger yates harcourt riley wilkin.i know is short but we have to many faces who were here under gripper and brown


Slight change's for my keep's listing which doesn't include Algar and Riley.
Kennedy
Lukic
Gaughan
Yates
King
Harcourt
Wilkin


I think Riley would be a good keep as he can play at left back as well as left midfield which is handy to have and I think Algar with the right service is useful to have as he terrorises defences when he runs at them.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think Riley would be a good keep as he can play at left back as well as left midfield which is handy to have and I think Algar with the right service is useful to have as he terrorises defences when he runs at them.


Thought Riley showed early promise but has been poor since I think.
Algar was on fire when he returned from FC New York but slipped back again to the same old just not enough end result despite all his terrorising of defences.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No point clearing out a load of players before you sign some new ones or are pretty certain that you can better value in. Especially as most won't be on contract anyway. You could easily get rid of a few and sign replacements only to find the replacements don't work out and are not as good as the players you've just got rid of! There have been a few signings in the last year that haven't worked out and haven't improved the side - Davidson, Nelthorpe, Winter, Mallon?, Morris?

I think most people including myself are in general consensus about where we can be improved and what positions we need to sign players in. I.E. Defence okay,problems going forward, don't score enough, 2 forwards needed, a right winger and perhaps another central midfielder as priority.

Wouldn't say Holmes is out of his depth, he still has a great touch and shows a lot of class at times, but very slow now and lacks aggression. His goals to games ratio started off ok but then trailed off. 14 goals just isn't a good enough return for someone who played so many games up front and is probably one of the higher paid players.

All we can do now is hope that Mark has a successful close season signing wise. A few good signings would change the mood completely.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think comparing Barcalona and chelsea to Matlock town is abit out of picture, gritter driver, because they have brains and ability to go with there 100% he cost us the last game of the season also. How many mistakes can one make?
Yes we started without Ross, he probably scored half a dozen screamers, most being in the right position at the right time and penalties. His effort and team got him the move. We havent had that all season which also destroyes your midfield.
Jmg how can you say Wilkins needs to stay he could be class for us? hes not played, if he was good enough do you think we would have to use retired players? must be the reason we cant use the u19s are they poor? sometimes there are only two subs bcos no budget so why arent they knocking on the door? golden oppurtunity, so i think that answers your question little john do you honestly think that side with two u19 players in can keep us up.? i dont at all, we would be down by christmas.
To young and not enough strength in depth.
the players Mark has got in are excellent i just hope they back him with a few more for the finished article. Best manager we have ever had.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was speaking to Liam's dad who confirmed the reason Liam wasn't playing due to an injury.

Let's not forget Wilkin ripped apart Burscough in the second half and scored on his first league start against Chasetown.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some good points cdibtblue but best manager ever i dont think so, untill he wins us a major cup or gets us to the 3rd round of the fa cup then he might get in the top 3 or 4. youth is the future with SOME old heads in the team, not a team of players who are at the end of there playing days. (seen a few in the last couple of years) only time will tell
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark Atkins has done a solid job since coming to Matlock and each year has seen steady progress until this year.

However I think Peter Swann Tom Fenoughty and Mick Fenoughty to name but three are in a different category with the success they enjoyed.

Peter Swann wins it for me as when he took over we were going nowhere with no budget and years without major success.

Now why does that sound familiar?

Come on Mark it can be done!
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