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DarrinJ
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:47 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Mine will not be a catering rig. I just wanted something bigger. Since I make my own bacon, sausages and so I want something big enough to make it worth my while when I cook. Right now my cookers are too small to make the batches that I want. For instance when I make pepperettes I can only fit 25 lbs. (pre-cooked weight) in my cooker at one time. With an average cook time of 15 hours I never have pepperettes in the house because we seem to eat them as fast as I can make them. This way I should be able to make 75 lbs. at one time. They should last a bit longer this time. LOL.

The same goes with bacon. I usually only make 3 bellies at a time. This way I can make 6 at a time or more depending on the length of the belly. I could end up making 12 at a time. Now only if I had the refridgeration capabilities.

Also my wife and I work weird hours so we like to make up a bunch of pulled pork inadvance and vacuum seal them in 1 lb. portions and then reheat at our lesure.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:42 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Mine more than likely will be used for catering and competitions. I am just now trying to break into the catering business. I my first gig in about a month. I have to cook 3 whole hogs for a church.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I have finished my drawings on a clone
AO size 64 high 48 wide 26 deep
Chamber 48X 36 (OD)
2" square tube .125 wall.
All sheet 14 ga
Metal cost alone $673.00 prior to taxes.Order it all today. WOW!!!!!
How does that compare to everyone else????

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Mutts, I think it is in the ballpark. After you get everything else you need(insulation, hinges, latches, paint, valves, pipe etc) it will still be under $1000. For something that size I think buying from Stumps, also consider it custom built, you would probably be in the $3000 range. Keep us posted on the build.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

mutts wrote:
I have finished my drawings on a clone
AO size 64 high 48 wide 26 deep
Chamber 48X 36 (OD)
2" square tube .125 wall.
All sheet 14 ga
Metal cost alone $673.00 prior to taxes.Order it all today. WOW!!!!!
How does that compare to everyone else????

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Mutts


Where's the drawings?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:49 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hey gang!

I posted on the monster clone thread. I'm looking to build a double wall hog cooker. I've got a good fab guy, I just can't talk the talk to him. I'm awful with engineering vision and vocabulary. They moved me out of mechanical drawing in high school and put me in Home Ec. Now I can cook, but I can't read a blue print or look at a drawing and visualize what it is. Help?!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Alright I have my design done. I would like possibly e-mail it to someone to take a look at it. The file size isn't that big but the image is full size.

Its based on the idea that the cooking chamber is 36 Wide, 36 High and 26 Deep. I've got all the measurements on the file so I just need to make sure that its going to be a working model.

What do you think? Jim?

Thanks

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:35 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Send it to me and will be glad tolook at it and get back to you.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:20 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Jim,

Everything is away. I can't wait to here what you have to say.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:01 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Darrin, just had a look at the drawing and it looks good. Near as I can figure the cooking chamber is going to be 38"wide x 36" high x 26" deep. Is that correct? Also the firebox inlet to the cooking chamber, you show it being 4" long, that would extend it into the chamber approx. 2", correct? The original Stumps is just flush with the cooking chamber wall and then there is a deflector right above the opening. I can't see where you extending it into the chamber the 2" would be a problem, in fact I think it just might be a good modification. Everything else looks real good. I wish I had a drawing to have worked from. I mitered all my corner joints and don't know why except I had a good industrial saw to to that. With the whole thing being sheeted on the outside, butt joints are no problem, as they won't be seen again.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:09 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

darrin I extended mine into the cook chamber about two inches. It will give the deflector something to sit on.

Jim in one of you pictures you show the deflecter just coming out about 3-4" did you modify later with a deflector all the way across?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks Jim!

The cooking chamber should have read as 36x36x26. I just double checked my drawings. I almost had a heart attack! I ordered the steel earlier today and they are going to cut everything for me. It should be ready in a week. I don't care about time right now cause the longer they take to prepare it the longer I'll have to pay for it. LOL.

As for the inlet, I did extend it into the chamber 2 inches. I ment to ask about it but my thinking was the same as yours. I had even though about extending the inlet right to the center but I think some tack welds and a piece of pipe should be a good test.

Now I have 6 inches between racks should that be enough? I've seen some others where they are making them 7+ inches.

Also the stack. I have it centered along the back. Is this ok?

And for the heat plate is there any special recommendations on the angle?

Thanks for your help Jim,

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think 6" between the racks is good because if you need more room, say for a couple of big turkeys, you can always just remove 1 shelf. The stack in the center and to the rear of the chamber is right where I have mine and it seems to work alright. No, I don't think the angle of the deflector plate is real critical so long as it is sloped away from the firebox opening, as it will also deflect the grease away from the fire. I use a baking pan on the bottom of my cooker at the lower end of the deflector to catch the grease. I do this because I didn't make my drain a "positive" drain. I plan on making a pan to fit there with a spout to the drain, sort of a retrofit to correct a design mistake.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:54 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

For the ash box what kind of metal did you guys use. I found out that a lady I work with her husband has a metal shop and often has lots of scrap. She is going to ask if I can go and pick through it.

I was thinking 1/4" metal?

Maybe I should call this DarrinG's Junk Yard Stumper Build! LOL

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

1/4" should be all you will need.

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